Over the last year, I have been seeing yellow spots. At first I was not sure. I mentioned it to the eye doctor last time I was there. I told them I was unsure though. I thought maybe i had looked a light, maybe what I was seeing was normal. He said it was not my eyes.
It isn’t normal, it has been slowly getting worse. I mentioned it to Jessie about a month ago, told her I really need to cut back on grease in foods. Not that I think this has a lot to do with what I’m eating.
Several years ago Ii had a couple of TIA’s. I went to the emergency room and they felt it was not in the brain but something behind they eyes. Since it had cleared up, they sent me home and told me to see my eye doctor.
They did an MRI and as usual found nothing definite. I got my medical records just before coming to the Philippines. I never even looked at it until the other day. The MRI showed Ii was missing a blood vessel to one of my eyes. I think to the retina. They said this is could have been congenital or acquired. I have been told that a few times, once about my spacial recognition. My stomach and now the blood vessels in my eyes.
These yellow spots are very much like the TIAs i had. Those were without color and lasted much longer and actually blocked my vision I probably wouldn’t have noticed them if it had not been for those TIAs which were just dark spots. They were a little bigger and blocked my vision. These yellow spots do not block my vision and go away almost as soon as I notice them. The MRI indicated a probably normal finding.
I’ll likely never know for sure if this is a part of vasculitis and lupus and speculation will be of no value that I can see. I’m not in the best place to be if there is a vision robbing emergency. But if it happens, this is where I will be.
I’ve been having much more problems with my blood sugar in the last month. I didn’t buy the non fat milk Ii need until last week and I have really paid the price for it. I don’t intend to make that mistake again. At least I hope it is not necessary. I’m looking forward to an easier month next month financially. If it is not easier, I may be in trouble.
Whatever happens, I intend to enjoy myself as much as possible.
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I just got back from my walk and saw a blue spot or circle this time. they are not small.
Didn’t notice any spots today. :) blood sugar too high as I pigged out on some wonderful Philippine bread.
Lot of people visiting this page. I wish you’d register and tell me what your experience is with this. Pretty clear this is not uncommon at all.
I also see something similar i see alot of purple spots kinda like the spots you see with a flash buld but i didnt have andything flash at me they just show up and if i bling or try to look right at it it will disapear i had an mri mra dialated retina exam and saw another opthamologist and they said that my eyes are perfect and the mri only showed that i have sinuses she thinks its the way light hits the retina and produces a light arc
although i do see other odd things i think the purple bothers me the most just becuz it seems to come daily and often through out the day i have also been told that since i notices it im probably seeing it more bcuz now im looking for it who knows i guess melissareimer20@yahoo.com
Hi Melissa,
Send a big “Oh Gesh” to your doctor that said that. It is just nuts.
Melissa,
Your doctor doesn’t know but that’s not unusual. I think they are trained to know everything or they might miss something. We’d likely find them, or most of them more human if they’d start acting like it. Don’t let them do it to you, you’re not imagining it. Mine stopped for a couple of weeks but then come back. It happens to me when I’m looking at something white. I don’t think my eye doctor doubted me at all. He just didn’t think it was my but instead in the brain I have a history of vasculitis and a lot of other things that could cause it. Doc’s want to put me in the hospital next week. I’ll bring it up to the new doctors. Might as well get them to check everything if I do go in. Insurance may not approve it.
I still see a lot of people coming here for this article. If you’re seeing yellow spots, any spots get yourself to the ER. This CAN be a very serious situation in which the blood flow to your eye is impeded.
In my case, it is probably caused by vascular spasm that is generally thought not to be damaging. At least, that the conclusion I have come to after doctors have told me various things without being clear.
But if blood is blocked for very long, your eye or part of it will die and it cannot be revived.
I’m still getting a lot of folks visiting about their yellow spots. I’d love to hear from you. It must be a very common problems but not much information on the web about it. I find that really strange. And a lot of you are searching for yellow spots on white backgrounds is what I what I have going on. I’m headed for the hospital and it’s one of the thing the doctor wants an answer too but he mentioned an eye doctor, my eye doctor in the states already said it wasn’t my eyes.
Hi Rusty.
I am seeing blue spots. I am so scared – I have been seeing them for about 9 months or so now – I have had 3 eye exams and all say my eyes are perfectly healthy. They don’t block my sight or anything – I just notice them appear in my vision for a couple of seconds and then disapear.
No flashing, no major headaches, anxiety sufferer, god knows what could be but don’t know what to do next.
Scared an MRI will show a brain tumour or something.
I’m a 20 year old healthy female – and a bit of a hypochondriac.
Please email me on xxkeleighxx@hotmail.com – share your experience etc and possibly have a bit of advice for me?
I see them more when tired too.
Just because a doctor can’t find a reason for the spots doesn’t mean you don’t see them. My eye doctor tells me it is not in my eyes. That doesn’t mean I don’t see them. I don’t think he had any doubt that I was seeing them and that I was seeing them because they were actually there.
The problem could be in the blood (LUPUS) or the brain and that’s just two of the possible ways that I know about. There are probably others.
Hypochondriac is where someone attributes normal body actions to an illness. I tell my doctors I don’t know what is normal any more. So much of what I thought was normal turned out to be illness.
If an MRI shows something wrong then it can be fixed, in most cases. Not knowing there is a problem doesn’t make it not there, it makes it untreated.
Have you seen an internist about this issue. If not you need too, if they are dismissing you, then you need to find a doctor that wont.
If anxiety is causing this, that needs to be treated but there is no way the doctor can know that if all test are not done.
Surely I would have other symptoms if I had LUPUS (I know a girl who has this and is on 5 lots of dialysis a day.
In the brain? What like?
How often do you see the spots – I wonder if theres a reason why yours are yellow and mine are blue? Have you had any further investigation into it?
I don’t know what to say to the Doctor I have already been and they just said ‘floaters are very common’. These are NOT floaters.
Although about the same time I started to see these blue spots – I noticed a floater thats always in my left eye.
The optician said it happens when we age.. I’m only just 20? I didn’t realise I was old!! lol.
My anxiety is almost gone too – but the spots havent.
I don’t notice them as much in the day, mainly at night. But once I’ve seen one I see loads.
Surely psychological?
I don’t know how I will find a Doctor that wont dismiss me.
Are you from UK?
And I’ve just found out im pregnant… so I cant have an MRI anyway can I?
Our conversation has made me go and get another appointment with a different optician. They told me not to worry and will not dismiss me like the people in the past have. Seeing them at 4.30pm! Fast or what!
I’l let you know how I get on!
No, 20 is not old and makes it hard for me not to flirt with you. You see, I’m too old for you, you are not too young for me. LOL One of my nick names on the net is Flirtilizer. :)
Wow your friend is very sick. Not all lupus is any where near that bad. The spots are often caused by lack of proper blood flow into the eye. One of the things that cause this is “junk” in the blood, like too many dead white blood cells. (That’s what destroyed your friends kidney’s) Her story makes me very sad. :( It can also block blood flow to the eyes or other organs.
There could be an inflamed blood vessel pushing up against the optic nerve causing strange things. Inflammation can be caused by many things, such as lupus or vasculitis or a virus.
I’m know doctor that’s just some of the things that can be wrong. I surely don’t know. I just know that I don’t dismiss what you see. And I don’t think my doctor was being dismissive when he said it wasn’t my eyes.
He ordered an MRI and they found I have a missing blood vessel to the eyes but that my other one has started feeding that eye.
The doctors never determined what is causing it. I see a LOT of people finding my site while searching for yellow spots in their eyes. So they must be the most common color but I do see other colors. For many, like me, I see the yellow while looking at something white. I see them most often when on my computer, almost the only place. They are rather faint and they don’t last long.
At first I wasn’t even sure, now I’m sure. They got stronger and more frequent for a while. I even thought maybe it was happening when I ate something high in fat. Probably not but seemed that way a couple of times. They are on the decline again now. I rarely see them.
At one point I had black ones, these were very dangerous and were called TIA’s. I had those strongly only twice. Most of the time they lasted only a few minutes. But once it lasted more like 30 and that sent me to the ER. The second one was 45 minutes and happened in both eyes. I was getting ready to go the doctor. I should have called the doctors much sooner but I just hate hospitals. Seeing it in both eyes at the same time is not normal and the eye doctor said it was systemic and not the eyes. I think it is the blood vessels collapsing or vasospasm as I get that in other parts of my body and it is caused my lupus. This does not normally cause long term damage but it can.
Doctors say everything is anxiety when they can’t find a cause for it. They are trained to be the great healer, when they can’t heal, they tend to blame it on anxiety or the patient. They may be right, anxiety can do a lot to you in very strange ways. Just because a doctor can’t find a reason for it doesn’t equate to it being in your head!
Pregnant? Wow someone flirted too much. LOL Congratulations.
I don’t know but I don’t think an MRI would be ruled out for a pregnant woman. They are totally magnates. There are no X rays. Now if your tiny unborn baby has pre-natal piercings you’re both in huge trouble if you get in an MRI.
No, not in the UK, never had the pleasure of visiting there. I would love too. I am from the USA but am currently living in the philippines.
Keleigh, how did the doctor visit go?
Rusty, I noticed that one time you commented that you saw blue spots too, right after your walk!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haidinger%27s_brush
Could what you are seeing be “Haidingers Brush”? It would explain seeing both yellow, and blue. It seems you are noticing this on polarized white surfaces such as an LCD computer screen?
<img src=”http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/31/Haidingers-brush03.jpg”>
“To see Haidinger's brush, start by using a polarizer, such as a lens from a pair of polarizing sunglasses. Gaze at an evenly lit, textureless surface through the lens and rotate the polarizer.
You can instead use the polarizer that is built into a computer's LCD screen: simply look at a white area on the screen, and slowly tilt your head..”
not sure why that link isnt working, but just type Haidinger's brush into wikipedia to pull up the page about the entoptic phenomenon.
Hmm, if i understood the article that is not what is happening, at least not exactly. Perhaps similiar or related. The image shown definatly is not what I see. I don't see yellow and blue and it is fainter but the article said it would be fainter. I don't see both colors at the same time. If it rotated I don't think I'd be able to tell and it moves on its own. It behaves like a floater but it surely isn't like the other floaters I see, it is much larger.
When I first saw the picture, I thought yes, that is what it looks like but a little darker but I thought they were just showing more than one copy.
I don't have a polaring filter, it was left behind.
I think the URL got changed because of this plugin I'm using. I'm going to get rid of it. I have to learn how first.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haidinger%27s_brush
I fixed that link for you visitor. I hope you’ll drop back by you seem to have more knowledge than the average person and there is a LOT of interest in this topic.
Hi I have posted here before and the haidinger brush is kinda what i see but like i said mine is purple and it reminds me alot of afterimages but it also seems that all of my afterimages are purple weird huh or maybe normal and i just started noticing this. i dont think it is anything serious because i had an mri and mra a month b4 i saw them and i have alot of eye test since and all come back perfect thatnks for the info and i wonder if anyone else sees this as purple also
Hi Melissa, I remember you. Glad you stopped back by.
I’m not sure if understood the Wiki article. I thought it was saying that one would see both the blue and the yellow at the same time.
That would seem to be the only way one would be able to notice the rotation by rotating your head? Maybe I misunderstood. Maybe you noticed what I’ve missed.
Melissa, you did tell the ophthalmologist about what you were seeing?
You’re probably right about it not being serious though since you’ve seen all those docs.
Visitor here again.. I think on that page if you look about halfway down there is a screenshot with the image EXTREMELY faint, as a representation of what this might typically look like if looking at a white page on an LCD computer screen, Im not sure if I read it correctly, but I was thinking it said that you would notice it when rotating your head, sort of like to the side, and peripherally? I’m thinking that since people probably notice it most when looking at a white page on the computer, chances are the blue wouldnt be very noticeable, even if you did see it, because very light blue would tend to blend into the white.. I think its the yellow that would probably stand out most.
Melissa, do the flashes show up for a certain period of time, like 20 mins or so? Maybe its ocular migraines?
Here is the illusive image to help people know what we are talking about.
I don’t see the blue and yellow at the same time.
Well, I don’t think I see both at the same time. I also don’t see two yellow spots. What I see behaves like a floater but my other floaters don’t have color and they are just specks. Can be a pain in the but in the sun.
Next time I see them, I will take notice of the blue. This is close to what it looks like to me as far as faintness goes. This image wasn’t showing up when I looked at the page, it was giving me another page where this was suppose to be. I clicked that to get the image.
What I see is also round. I recently have some new symptoms going on, I think I have Scleroderma as I’ve had spontaneous scaring show up on my hands. I have a ton of problems with my immune system.
I think what I’m seeing is junk in my blood vessels from all the dead white blood cells people with lupus and I assume Scleroderma have. I was dx’d with lupus a long time ago but it is not typical of lupus. One doc said some “horrible immune system monster but it’s not lupus” I’m about 99% sure I have CREST, I don’t know if any of this would fit in with CREST or not.
Visitor, I appreciate the help and I have no doubt you’re providing suggesting that will be right on. When I wrote this article, I had no idea it would draw so many visitors. Most don’t leave comments of course. I’m just a strange case. :) Mine don’t flash, they are gone almost as soon as I see them.
The dark spots I saw a few times lasted up to 45 minutes and were dx’d by a real doctor (not me LOL) as TIA. They just never found the cause. The ophthalmologist stated, “I can’t find anything wrong with your eyes.” They did find a blood vessel feeding the eye to be missing. They don’t know if acquired or not. Blood vessel to other eye is now feeding both. Radiologist said PROBABLE normal MRI but he didn’t know my history of bilateral facial muscle weakness and vasculitis.
Tilting my head produces no spots for me.
no mine last as long as the typical afterimage would if i blink a few times they disapear it seems like when light enters my eye at a certain angle it makes it worse. Like if a flashlight light enters my eye from the side a will see purple arcs of light then when the flash light gets shut off i will see purple spots or try this look at a window when it is sunny out for 5 to 10 seconds without blinking then look at a blank wall what do you see??? Purple window on the wall?? that what i see but i get it from alot of things.. Yes rusty the opthamologist does know what i have and she thinks i have VERY sensitive retinas. I just wish i knew what from maybe prolonged computer use.. Iam also a bit of a hypochondriac well alot of one but lol…….like all of us with anxiety we dont know what came first the chicken or the egg ya know
yea i dont see both either and mine is the same faintness also but purple….. and i dont see it in that exact form. I dunno its weird
Not sure if this will show up..
This has a caption under it that reads:
“Simulated appearance of a computer screen viewed through a polarizer, showing typical size and intensity of Haidinger’s brush”
I’m pointing this one out because it shows a type of variance, plus I think it seems as if the blue is less noticeable than the yellow. I think by “tilting your head” they mean that for those who are TRYING to see Haidinger’s brush and having trouble seeing it.. as a guide to seeing it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Haidinger.jpg
Anyway.. it is a screen capture of what it might look like when viewed on a screen with wikipedia in the background.. are you able to see the image I am referring to? It’s about halfway down the page and says “Main Page” at the top of it..
Rusty, they do also mention how you can notice it when looking at a sunny sky..
“With practice, it is possible to see it in the naturally polarized light of a blue sky.”
Apparently a sunny sky is naturally polarized, much as an LCD screen is also polarized.
I don’t seem to be able to force it. I posted the image in a comment above, did you miss it? It’s the same image in your link, I think.
It just isn’t what I’m seeing but if I scroll through these comments real fast, I’ll think I see the yellow spots. And that happens pretty much every time. Then I realized it started happening after I posted the image above. So I’m picking up on it subconsciously as it goes screaming by as I scroll down fast. :)
Users are unable to post images and I don’t seem to have a way to give users permission to do so. I’ll go look for that in the settings. I’m kind of new to Word Press. I suppose I should read the instructions. LOL
Melissa, mine didn’t start out round, they were more like what I remember an amoeba looked like. Different shaped, someone circular but not round, had indents and such. Glad you’ve talked to your doctor, that’s the most important thing. It is nice your doctor didn’t dismiss you. :) If your a high anxiety type person, like me, we tend to be over vigilant and as visitor has alluded too, perhaps more sensitive or on the look out for problems.
I don’t think I would have thought twice about the yellow spots if I hadn’t had the dark spots diagnosed as TIA.
Sometimes being extra vigilant makes sense, like someone with a chronic illness. But even if it doesn’t make sense, people don’t have to make sense. We are all different, all have our abnormalities with the normal. :)
I tell my doctors straight up, I don’t know what is normal any more. SO much of what I thought was normal turned out to be pathological.
Always good to hear from you Melissa! Keep us up to date!
Thank you rusty! Yes im also happy that my eye doc did not excuse this but she does think it is normal for ME jut because im basically hyper sensitive to what my body does. When i dont pay attention i dont see the purple as much but on a stressful day or a very anxious day i see them ALOT i have been through so many tests being a hypochondriac its unbelievable and yet even after all the test my mind still isnt completely at ease bcuz im always conserned that they may have missed something.. althouh i should be living my life like a NORMAL 24 year old girl and not worry so much that i have some deadly disease. Although on my good days without anxiety i feel excellent and very healthy i dunno sometimes i think the purple and yellow in your situation may be a phenomenon that you and i picked up on that we cant ignore anymore because we are almost looking for it. and expecting it and kinda trying to make it happen lol i know i do certain things as much as i hate seeing the purple i will do things repeatedly to make myself see them again basically just to see if they are still there. :) oh the wonderful life of anxiety
I found something out that may be of interest to you and some others
Its prob not a brain tumor why??? because i see it and i dont have one and with a brain tumor you looses vision not gain a new visual phenomenon also i talked to an excellent opthamologist and she said alot of things that stimulate the eye cause us to see colors also sometimes just like a muscle mis fires (a muscle twitch) the rods and cones in the eyes can also misfire and cause us to see all kinds of things and just like if some people pay to much attention to how many times someone says “but” while there talking you notice it alot. the anology she told me is say you buy a white saturn b4 u bought it you never saw white saturns but as soon as you get one you see them all the time i hope that helps alittle i know it helped me some thanks sorry if that sounds dumb but it really does make sence to me
LOL Melissa, you have a good attitude about being anxious. I can’t make myself see them, what you describe sounds like some form of the brush that Visitor brought up.
I’ve only seen the blue once and they were in the same place I see the yellow, just different color.
I’m hyper vigilant too, in part, because I don’t know what is normal and I have things going wrong, seriously wrong at times. With an illness that can kill, I stay alert to things and seems like I should. However, lupus is not likely to kill me. If lupus is going to be seriously bad, it will usually do it in the first two years and I’m way past that.
I’ve had a lot of things that I thought were normal turn out to be significant, leaving me not knowing what is normal. Little things mostly.
Have you ever looked up hypochondria? It is an illness where people attribute normal things to an illness. Or in other words they think something that is normal is abnormal.
If one works at not being hypersensitive or hyper vigilant seems like it would just make it worse.
I agree get out there and have fun with that young mind and body while it is still young!
Oh I don’t think I have a brain tumor.. but now that you mention it I have been getting these headaches. LOL Just kidding. I don’t think I have a brain tumor.
I think it is far more likely to be related to vasospams as I have them in other parts of my body. Not as bad as I use to. I tell the docs what is going on with me. I leave it up to them to decide if it is “remarkable” as they like to say.
The yellow sports are not much of an issue at all for me right now. I see them from time to time but not very often at this time. I got worried about them when I was seeing them a lot but I don’t think I’m overly concerned. They will be back, they may lead to something else or they may never lead to anything.
A LOT of people are seeing them, perhaps it is a common complaint and perhaps a lot of people don’t realize they are normal because when I search for information, I find almost nothing!
Visitor, this Haidi Brush might jus be what I’m seeing. And Melessia may have hit one something without knowing it. It may be those of us that tend to be wound just a hair too tight, those of us that tend to be on the anxious side might just notice it more than others.
I’m not sure. When I first told the doctor about these things I told him I wasn’t sure it was anything abnormal, that I don’t think I would have even noticed them if not for the earlier TIAs.
Based on the number of people that search for yellow sports on white backgrounds, I’m not alone. I suppose that’s why xanax is in such high demand. I’m too anxious to abuse them though. LOL I have been taken them since 1985 when I stopped smoking.
oh my gosh yellow faint coloring on a white background is 100 percent NORMAL lol ive seen that since the day i was born (i think) no no no thats nothing dont worry bout that all that is is white is made to be bright your pupils or eyes are trying to tone down the brightness by adding alittle beige or as you see it yellow to the white to help you focus. Its your body trying to help you to not burn your retinas!! Just like how your pupils restrict when lookin at bright light its the same thing i think that is being sensitive not anything to worry about at all every one on the planet sees that just how we all do and dont say anything cuz we think it normal or dont give it any thought. i wanted to see it so i stared at a white wall and yep sure as heck i saw it. i probably always have but now i noticed it to. :)
I don’t see them most of the time, sometimes for weeks I don’t see them. I don’t know. They were increasing for a while, the change concerned me.
My ears have been ringing since day one for me. I thought that was how silence sounded. I thought it was normal, only when I read it wasn’t normal did I find out it wasn’t. Then I asked others if they heard it.
Kind of funny, that once I was chasing a cricket around my living room, but I could never find it. Then I realized it wasn’t a cricket. It was the ringing in my ears!
It does sound a lot like one. So how long something has been happening does not mean it is normal. That’s why I tell my doctors that I don’t know what is normal.
I don’t think most people see these yellow spots. Then again, there is a lot of people searching for information about them on the web.
I think relatively speaking you are right that a lot of ppl dont notice it. Some people seem more perceptive of visual phenomena – that might be another article all of its own. Anyone COULD see it, but I don’t think most people do notice it. Maybe it’s something to do with with “hypersensitivity”. The other image Im trying to post isnt the same one you posted actually, Rusty. In fact I think most people would miss it when looking at that page because it isnt extremely obvious. Its a simulation of what the yellow/blue would look like on a background with text.. let me see if I can post the link right to the image – maybe this will post and you can copy and paste to see it: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/28/Haidinger.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entoptic_phenomenon – This is a really interesting page on entoptic phenomena in general (which includes haidinger’s brush)
I just started to notice yellow honeycomb-type patterns when looking at white surfaces. I usually have to be string at it a while but I can almost always see it if I stare long enough.
I cannot find anything about it but I will mention it to my doctor on my next visit.
Hi Lance!
Visitor did find some related information. I go back and forth if this is what I’m seeing… I don’t think so and there is nothing I can do to make it come. I also can’t really hold it long enough to rule out the Haidinger’s brush. I’ve decided it is probably not a major issue for me. yea be sure to mention it to the doctor.
One of the things that will make you see sports has to do with having “junk” in your blood stream which could be warning of stroke or hard attack. Notice I said COULD BE. :) I know of other things it could be that are not dangerous and it could be totally normal and some of us are more likely to see it.
Let us know what happens lance!
I’ve noticed more people coming here that are searching for yellow spots in their eyes rather than seeing yellow spots.
IF YOU SEE YELLOW IN THE WHITES OF YOUR EYES SEE A DOCTOR ASAP. You are probably having some kind of issue with your liver and in some cases delaying treatment can result is a devastating outcome. Don’t put it off.
I’m in my 30′s – always had 20/20 vision, I am healthy, no disease.
I eat right, excerise regulary and a few weeks ago – I started noticing these color spots in my peripheral vision. They are not always yellow, sometimes i see them and it is blue, purple, green. Not sure what to make of it. There is no explanation I’ve found.